God Uses Pain to Reveal Who You Really Are

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Discover how stress, comparison, and cluttered priorities choke your calling—and why pain might be God’s loudest megaphone. Dr. Jake shares the Disney moment that rewired his legacy goals, breaks down his “Pyramid of Priorities,” and shows how fearless faith turns scarcity into impact. Watch, apply, and build the practice (and life) you were created for.

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[00:00:00] Unsubscribe to everything that is not 100% essential, all of it. You need to absolutely get blinders for a season, 

[00:00:08] but you don't even know who you are. So you're just like, let me copy whatever comparison. Literally triggers the stress response. So cortisol, adrenaline, norepinephrine, we know that shuts off the frontal cortex.

[00:00:18] Frontal cortex is what connects to God. Oh, I don't need to compare. And I'm already enough and I already was. And father, forgive them. They know not what they 

[00:00:26] do.

[00:00:30] What's up family? Welcome back to another episode of The Profitable Chiro Network. I am back with one of the best human beings in the entire world. Mr. Jake, Dr. Jake, Dr. Jake Human. Welcome, 

[00:00:42] man. Thanks for having me again. 

[00:00:43] We're doing it again. Yep. 'cause the first time was just too fun. 

[00:00:47] It was, 

[00:00:47] uh, this one will probably be shorter.

[00:00:49] And here's, um, if you have ever wanted to know what transformation looks like or maybe you're looking to transform for yourself. This will [00:01:00] be the episode for you, uh, for a lot of reasons, but one, just because Jake has so much stinking knowledge about growth and the Lord and just being obedient. Um, and I don't really know exactly where this conversation will take us, but I guarantee you it will change your life.

[00:01:13] 'cause what Jake is gonna share with you is this story that he, I don't think he even knew that this story changed my life when you shared it with me in the context that you shared it in. Um, so that's what I would love to unpack first off is like. The, I'll give you the context and I'll kind of just like set it and then you can just tell more of the backstory of it.

[00:01:31] So like fill in the details. Yeah. So, um, for anybody listening, go back and listen to the first episode because you'll just get a sense of who Jake is as a man. Um, he's freaking amazing. Like he's an awesome. It's been cool spending time with you guys this week, like seeing you as dad, seeing you as husband.

[00:01:46] Um, doing all the fun stuff, but Jake is also an in insane leader as well inside of his practice. But one of the things that I've kind of seen Jake and some of the other guys that we roll with struggle with is the balance between being all in on business [00:02:00] and just being a business builder versus like a legacy builder in terms of the time with family.

[00:02:05] Yeah. And the thing that you said that was so important and mattered so much to me is you mentioned this concept of like creating memories. And the way that you said it to me was it almost felt like it was this refreshing, like releasing of a bunch of, I don't wanna say baggage, but it was like a release of, oh, I don't just have to be in all business mode.

[00:02:30] I can actually go have fun too. Yeah. So I would love for you to share the story of when you guys went to Disney and like just some of the funny details, because I think it'll be funny. And then we'll just kind of see where we end up with it. But to me it matters because it, it expresses so much of what I think most people miss about business, about leadership, about life.

[00:02:48] And you know, some people talk about legacy and they're just like, we're just gonna build the business as big as we can. Make accounts as big as we can so you can take it away. Um, that's my little intro on it, but I just love that you're [00:03:00] gonna share this story. It's awesome. 

[00:03:02] Yeah, I think this is stemming from DK has always encouraged me to have more fun.

[00:03:08] I think most people I have to. 

[00:03:09] Yeah. Yeah. I, I think that that is a, um. It's something that I miss a lot. I really do. I don't even think about it. 

[00:03:16] Yeah. 

[00:03:17] I, I enjoy, I, I think from a very young age, I've always been a more serious person. Like, I know that my family's always classified me as like a, like a little, little old man kind of thing.

[00:03:30] Yeah. Is like, when I was coming up, you know, in, you know, childhood, adolescence, teenage years or whatever, it was just, I was always. I don't know. My mind worked in different ways. 

[00:03:43] Yeah. 

[00:03:43] And it served me extremely well, but I know that sometimes it feels like it's hard to like let everything go and just be here now.

[00:03:54] Have a great time. But what I've learned and what you've really helped me with is over time, [00:04:00] sometimes you have to set targets. 

[00:04:03] Mm-hmm. 

[00:04:05] Toward that outcome so that it's in front of you consistently. 

[00:04:09] Yeah. When you, I'm just gonna clarify. Yeah. So people like heard what you said, 'cause I think they might've missed it.

[00:04:14] Is like when you're talking about setting targets toward the outcome Yeah. Setting the target towards having fun as the outcome. Correct. And I will just like give you, you're probably being more harsh on yourself. Yeah. 'cause that's how we roll. Sure. But Jake. Is extremely intelligent. Like, so intelligent, but it, that's the reason that he's intelligent.

[00:04:36] And the part of the reason that it's sometimes hard to like let go of stuff is because you're constantly thinking about how can I make it better? Yeah. What could I do different? How could I go deeper? So that's not, it's not a bad thing. Mm-hmm. But like I've been in the place too, where it's like it's hard for me to have a conversation with Heather about anything because I'm just thinking the whole time.

[00:04:55] Yeah. 

[00:04:55] So I can only call it out a little bit because I see it. So I just want to put that. On the, [00:05:00] like, on the table and just say, it's like it's not a bad thing necessarily. Yeah. Um, it's an insanely great superpower and you still gotta set the target to have fun. Yeah. Or else you'll miss it. 

[00:05:13] Yeah. I think you, you said and when I was about to say, but yeah.

[00:05:16] So I'm glad you, I'm glad you caught that. You knew what I was about to say. So I think we need to call a spade a spade. It can be relatively exhausting to be around people like us. 

[00:05:29] Yeah, 

[00:05:30] it can be. And I think that a lot of entrepreneurs will relate to that. It's not that you're, you know, a bad person. It's not that you, your just mind's thinking differently.

[00:05:39] Yeah. It's like you and I go to a coffee shop and it's like we're thinking about the experience and we're like, 

[00:05:44] oh, 

[00:05:44] if they did blah, blah, blah. 

[00:05:45] Yeah. Yeah. 

[00:05:45] What on earth? Like, why are we wired that way? Yeah. It's designed, but I also think that. Some of it is, is we've gotta reprogram to some degree and some of the systems that we have in our life [00:06:00] help us to reprogram ourselves over time.

[00:06:04] Yeah. To get more of both sides, like be very well-rounded, get some of the like go accomplish, conquer. We're good with that. We can sit in that guy for as long as you want us to, but then help us to. Help each other get over here too. So all that being said, probably a year ago, uh, when Story R second was about to be born, I was like, okay, I'm.

[00:06:35] Our family's growing. Mm-hmm. Like, we wanna make sure that we put some buoys in place to where it's like we're going to, we're gonna create like very, very tangible memories. Not necessarily trips or extravagance or anything, but just like things that we can absolutely attach ourselves to and remember.

[00:06:53] Yeah. Because I told Johnny one day that it was like, I, our, our daughter's like walking and talking now and I'm like, [00:07:00] what happened? Yeah. You know. And with Turner, I was super, super intentional with like, every single day I was like, every day I'm gonna be with her. We're gonna connect. And, and we have, we have an incredible relationship, I think, because of all of that intentionality.

[00:07:16] Yep. But I still woke up about a year into, into her life and I was like, I don't really have a ton of those like core memories, which is like a, you know, a thing floating around social and stuff. But, um, I didn't have it. And so I was like, all right, I'm gonna put some targets in place where we doubled down on that.

[00:07:35] Mm-hmm. And so I had this conference that we were going to, that I was, uh, speaking at, and it was really, should have been like a in and out trip for me. It was like, I'm gonna fly in on Friday afternoon. Yep. I'm gonna do my thing on Saturday morning after the conference ends at 8:00 PM I'm just gonna leave.

[00:07:58] This is in a place I really don't care about [00:08:00] spending time. It's like I'm gonna be in and out. Well, after a lot of conversation I was like, okay, this is an opportunity. Johnny loves to travel. Johnny loves to see new places. She also like works really, really hard in the home and around the home all the time.

[00:08:14] Yeah. And so me being intentional with. Planning stuff. For her to get a new view in a new place is very refreshing for her. So we were like, all right, we've got a tiny, I think she was like four months maybe. And we've got a, not even two month old. Yep. Sorry. Not even a 2-year-old. And so we booked a, booked a trip to Orlando.

[00:08:40] Flew in. I left the office a day, which I was not comfortable doing yet because we had just hired some new staff that, in my opinion, weren't ready then. Mm-hmm. Wrong. Um, they were ready and we just flew out two days early. Made a really cool experience out of it. Did Disney all [00:09:00] day. I'll be honest, like there was so many people it flew by.

[00:09:03] Yeah. But we have so many like moments that day that we experienced that were like, they're just burned in my head forever now. Mm-hmm. And I'm like, I'm so thankful that we just like said yes and did it. Yeah. And then on the backside of that, we all got together. And I was just downloading to you and to the other guys like, what?

[00:09:23] What happened and what it meant to me. And the main thing that I get from that is Johnny has not stopped talking about that weekend. 

[00:09:31] So Good dude. 

[00:09:32] Or that trip. Yeah. Or her core memories from that trip since we got back. 

[00:09:37] Yeah. 

[00:09:38] And so the whole time I was thinking about the kids and the biggest gift was that.

[00:09:44] My wife felt loved, honored and cherished because we prioritized the family and creating a memory, create an experience for what we thought was for the kids, is really for she and I. Yep. And we get to remember [00:10:00] that and enjoy that for literally forever. 

[00:10:03] So, good, dude. So there's a, there's a framework that I'm reminded of that like self is at the bottom.

[00:10:10] So there's a pyramid, if you wanna think of it that way. And really connection with God. Yeah. And then marriage and then kids, and then business and then hobbies or overflow would be after that. But what's cool is what I hear you saying is like the further you focus on the bottom of the pyramid, the more it overflows into everything else.

[00:10:29] Yeah. Which, which is great. So like, it's like God gave you this cool opportunity because you have such a close, intimate relationship with him. But think about like how. We are like his bride. Mm-hmm. Right? And so the same thing is true is like when you step into that for your bride, it just pours over to everyone.

[00:10:51] And I think that's what's special. To see it from the outside is like that framework start to lay its foundation in your life in a [00:11:00] real tangible way because. I think so many people miss it. Yeah. And they're like, it's always on my practice numbers define me or my office visits define me, or how many team members I have or like what car I drive or where I live or like, and again, those things are fine to have.

[00:11:17] I'm not saying it's a bad thing, but like that doesn't, those are all the way at the tip top of the pyramid. 

[00:11:23] Yeah. 

[00:11:24] And so it's been to me just watching your growth, that's why I think it's so special and why I wanted you to share it. Um, 'cause it's just a, I think it's a reminder for me of like, Hey, don't forget about the main thing, which is the relationship with the Lord.

[00:11:38] And if you have that, I think it like this is like if you think of your thirst is quenched fully in the Lord, yeah. That will full on overflow to everything else. And, you know, we talked about sheep on the last episode. I, I was learning this about sheep. That like sheep when they, they don't have to drink [00:12:00] water if there's a good shepherd.

[00:12:02] Because a good shepherd, a sheep can get enough water from the grass that they eat off the dew in the grass and they'll be fulfilled. So like if again, this idea of like, there's a good shepherd and a good steward who takes care of us, and if we take care of ourselves and we clench the thirst, that's. The Lord first and not the other, like worldly stuff first, then we're fulfilled.

[00:12:23] But that fulfills all the other things in our life. So that was my long-winded rant, but I just think it's so cool. Like I just get fired up on it, dude. It's awesome. 

[00:12:32] Yeah. 'cause I mean, I think part of this is like when someone reaches out to us, typically, besides like our core people, what are they typically reaching out to us about?

[00:12:43] It's usually business. 

[00:12:45] Yeah. Yeah. And that can be. You can look at it from both sides of that. It's super honor to help people 

[00:12:51] for sure. 

[00:12:52] Super honored to do that. Uh, but it can also feel like somebody's just like turning that crank. [00:13:00] Mm-hmm. You know, a lot more. And so you feel like you're solving those problems all day and maybe you get good at it too.

[00:13:09] Yeah. I mean there's, there's some like, you know, un unfortunate. Psychology to that too, where it's like, oh, I know how to solve that problem. Yeah. I know how to like take care of that. Or I know how to, you know, pull this lever and that happens. And that can reinforce you to keep doing that. Yep. So what I've had to do is try to figure out ways that I can be.

[00:13:31] Positively reinforced, whether that's internal or like my little microcosm of a situation, and get some positive reinforcement from that and then attach yourself to like, why is that important to Johnny? Why is that important to Turner? Why is that important to story? Like, what is the fruit that will come from that?

[00:13:50] Yeah, and like that's, that's such a huge win, but you can't just necessarily hold onto it like. You know, the thing or the outcome or the month or the, you know, [00:14:00] year end stat or whatever it is, it's like, but the primary call of our lives, our primary mission, our primary ministry is the way I like to think about it Yeah.

[00:14:10] Is right in our home. Yeah, no doubt. Like it's right there. And so you can be the most like successful person and if it's a mess for your primary ministry, then like what on earth? Yep. Which 

[00:14:23] I think a lot of pe, I mean, dude, like we're in Orange County, so I can, I, I think the divorce rate here is 83%. That's 

[00:14:29] unbelievable.

[00:14:30] But so then that begs the question is why Yeah. Well here the idols are the Lambo and like the $22 million house on the beach and a lot of the other things. And then you just see families like ripped apart. Yeah. At the seams from it. Or there's just a wake of unhealthy. Things that come from it. And again, like, dude, I'm not saying that is a place of judgment at all.

[00:14:51] No, but it's, I also have seen like what's come from my life and even if I don't have that house on the [00:15:00] beach, there are things that are undeniably much more valuable that make me rich beyond belief that like I wouldn't have trade it for anything. Yeah. We talked about this at dinner the other night where I was like, if I never made another dollar, Heather's still gonna be proud Yeah.

[00:15:21] Of me. God's still gonna be like, well done. Mm-hmm. You know, and that's what matters. And I think that's a lot of what you're talking about too, where people like, Hey, I want to like turn this crank in business, but the real way to do it. I don't wanna say effortlessly, but it's a different kind of effort.

[00:15:40] Yeah. Is to work on what's my relationship with the Lord? Like, where's my spirituality at? How much am I at tuned to holy, what Holy Spirit's telling me and guiding me to do? And we talked about that on the last episode two with obedience. 

[00:15:53] Yeah. Because I, I think that it's very simple, but in order to understand [00:16:00] God's will for your life 

[00:16:01] Yep.

[00:16:03] The source of that will. Is in his word. Yeah. I mean, John talks about that very clearly. Yeah. In the beginning was the word. Yeah. And so the, the word is scripture. It's living and active and it's applicable. And so if you'll just pick it up and listen to it, like that's how he's gonna talk to you. Yeah. And if we'll start there.

[00:16:30] I still believe that there's so much in the Bible around marriage and primary ministry and how that relationship grows. Yeah. That is gonna literally drive every other relationship because I mean, Christ is to us. 

[00:16:52] Mm-hmm. 

[00:16:53] The same way. Yeah. That, I mean, it's just a model. Like he literally gives us example.

[00:16:58] Then how it's gonna apply to y'all. Yeah. And it's [00:17:00] all to just paint a bigger picture of the way he designed it. And so the way that he loved the church, which is his people, I mean, he literally, I mean, lived a perfect life. Perfect life. Gave his life in the most brutal way possible. Yep. All just for us who were going to choose things that are not of him.

[00:17:18] Mm-hmm. Consistently in front of him. Yep. Every day. Yep. And so that's the picture. That he asks us as men to get as close to, for our wives and kids as possible. 

[00:17:34] So, good dude. And 

[00:17:35] so I think that, um, I started my office before marriage, before I even met Johnny, before children and all that stuff. So, and if that connects with anybody else, like you'll, you'll be able to really hear this and understand this, but.

[00:17:52] I was like married to the four walls. Yeah. I, you know, raised the four walls, if you will. Like that was [00:18:00] my entire focus. And so while that did produce some fruit, I think a lot of people get stuck in this like comparison game. I'm literally thinking of a guy in my head right now and he talks to me.

[00:18:15] Consistently once or twice a year. Mm-hmm. I only see him periodically and he'll always say, man, I struggle so much comparing myself to you. 'cause we're right down the road from one another. Yeah. Like half an hour. And it breaks my heart because I'm like, in a lot of ways, like he's exactly. What I always wanted too.

[00:18:31] Mm-hmm. He's got a great family, great kids. Chiropractic was second career, and so he'd already, you know, started a successful business, um, spiritually super, super mature and growing. So like in a lot of ways I was like, that is what I want. Yeah. But the only thing that he could attach to was what the business outcomes were.

[00:18:51] Mm-hmm. Meanwhile, I'm over here feeling like completely isolated and alone, and I'm doing this all by myself. Like what? All that, that whole like [00:19:00] run. I think that's the danger of being in this entrepreneurship game because it's so easy right now to literally flip open the phone and be like, oh, that's what success looks like.

[00:19:12] Yep. And you have no idea what's behind the curtain. Yeah. And I think that's another area that, that you can probably speak into so much more than me. But you know, again, scripture talks about comparison being the thief of all joy. And so we talked about the, the last episode we. We talked about what's the biggest miss for most entrepreneurs, and specifically in our world, chiropractors.

[00:19:34] And we talked about, you know, not having certainty in innate intelligence in God's design. Yeah. I think that the second, very close to that is the comparison syndrome that we all have. And I mean, that can go to like the physical that can go to the, the marriage that can go all of it. Yeah. But it is.

[00:19:56] That'll rob quicker than anything else. 

[00:19:58] Yeah, I mean, dude, [00:20:00] you, I, I didn't even think of that scripture when I did the episode, but I, um, so I recorded the episode on comparison and how comparison literally triggers a stress response. So, cortisol, adrenaline, norepinephrine, we know that shuts off the frontal cortex.

[00:20:14] Frontal cortex is what connects us to God, like physically. Um, but like comparison, when we compare, it's a threat to identity. And as soon as we have a threat to our quote unquote identity in the flesh, it's like we're discarding what God already granted us our identity with from the moment that we were conceived.

[00:20:37] And that's a thumbprint that's unique to you and no one else. Yeah. And I think that's so interesting that Yeah, man, that, and that's why it's so cool, and I love the identity conversation in general is because. Like we're all trying, like we all are convinced to compare ourselves to each other, but [00:21:00] we're not, like none of us are playing the same game.

[00:21:03] Yeah. Like we are in business kind of, sort of, kind of. 

[00:21:05] Not really though, 

[00:21:06] but not really because each is a different ministry. We all serve different people. Yeah. We all have a different product. We all have a different service. We all communicate a different way. And it's like, that's where I, I see like people reach out and they're like, dude, teach me how you're doing your social media.

[00:21:19] And I'm like, dude, you don't need to do my social media. You just need to Do you. 

[00:21:23] Yeah. 

[00:21:24] But you don't even know who you are, so you're just like, let me copy, whatever. Yeah. And I think that's where the, like the mo biggest upgrade someone could have comes from is just realizing that. Oh, I don't need to compare and I'm already enough and I already was.

[00:21:43] And I think you know what you shared about Jesus, like when he's on the cross. I did. I love those final words of like, father, forgive them. They know not what they do and like how. Insanely powerful. That is like, and I can't help but think that he's looking at us right now going, like, you guys are still [00:22:00] comparing yourselves to each other.

[00:22:01] Like, father forgive them. Yeah. They know not what they do. Yeah. You know? Um, so yeah, dude, it's just so, it's so special. Such a, such a cool share. 

[00:22:09] Yeah. 

[00:22:10] Yeah. 

[00:22:11] I think that, uh, I've had to put some language around that because even within the last like six months Yeah. I've had to like cast some of those demons out and make specific.

[00:22:23] Decisions that was like, alright, I'm gonna make this decision knowing that it is going to uproot. 

[00:22:31] Yep. 

[00:22:31] A piece of me that I committed to that was never really me. 

[00:22:36] Yeah. 

[00:22:36] And so that language for me is the imposter syndrome. 

[00:22:40] Yep. 

[00:22:40] That I, I mean, I, I, I've spent five years like coaching startups, like, so I get it.

[00:22:46] I mean, number one, I did it. 

[00:22:48] Yep. 

[00:22:49] Pretty successfully on paper. Yep. And then have just been on repeat with like startup after startup, after startup, after startup. Mm-hmm. And what I'm learning more and more is [00:23:00] the slower you are upfront is typically directly proportional to how much are you saying that you did not write down or design?

[00:23:15] Because the more I say out of my mouth Yep. That does not line up with my heart. Like there is gonna be inten, it's not gonna be authentic. 

[00:23:25] Yeah. 

[00:23:26] And when you say something that I know that you don't believe, I have a feeling. Mm-hmm. Like something shifts in me and usually it's not good. Yeah. Usually it's the, you may hear their words, but you're not gonna listen to those words.

[00:23:40] Yep. And so the faster, the faster we can understand what we actually believe and then write that down, sit with that, pray about that, understand that, refine that, and then go forward with that. [00:24:00] To me, that's gonna a, that's gonna accelerate whatever you're trying to accomplish. Yeah. Because I know for a long time I was.

[00:24:09] Saying other people's words. Yeah. And it worked all right for a time, for a moment. Yep. And I would say that 80% of it was what I believed, but that extra 20% is what I've had to cast out over the past seven to eight years. Finding those incongruencies, finding those lines, those, you know, scripts, finding the whatever it is, that is not me.

[00:24:34] You've gotta find those and pluck those out. 

[00:24:36] Yep. Well, and dude, I, I think that like, you know, you heard me talk about this a lot, but I had sometimes things will come into your life to reveal those to you. 

[00:24:48] Yeah. 

[00:24:49] And they can seem as a threat or as something that's meant to be like hurtful. So the example I'm thinking of is like.[00:25:00] 

[00:25:01] A anybody who doesn't know, and you mentioned this, I can't remember if you mentioned it on the podcast or not, but we were talking about it recently. I come from, this was at dinner. Mm-hmm. I come from a background where like I didn't, in the beginning I did, but then I pretty quickly like separated myself from the chiropractic community and I was just like straight around like hustlers in the coaching space.

[00:25:21] Yeah. And I'm not using hustlers in a bad sense. I'm just saying like people who were. Like, dude, they were doing it mm-hmm. And making a lot of money, but they're like, the sales tactics were, uh, like, I don't know. Now I look back on it and I'm like, oh, I see what you were doing, but I would never do it that way.

[00:25:36] Yeah. And like, I don't care how much money you have, and you could call me like you could, whatever, they could talk trash all they want. But what I, what I know now is like, I realize things will come to me as a challenge when. I need to almost get myself in check. So an example of this would be a few weeks ago, uh, we had a client come in, brought their son in and [00:26:00] everything seemed cool, but it was very much in line with the bad review scenario that I shared on another episode.

[00:26:09] So, but the. The challenge wasn't, uh, the whole process. It was this one sentence and this one email that was a follow-up email. Well, guess what? I haven't looked at the freaking follow-up email in like four years probably. And so I looked at it and I'm like, all right, like, yeah, it's not my language. It's not that harsh, but I could see.

[00:26:30] And so that was a call to be like, dude, that one sentence, that thing that you're talking about is not your language. And I think that, so that's one, one example for me. But what I've seen with you too, I think is cool is that your business has changed a little bit in the last probably year. Yeah. At least not for good or bad or right or wrong, but I feel like that's the call for you to like, we're gonna bring more of [00:27:00] Jake home.

[00:27:00] Yeah. 

[00:27:02] Like who he was called to be and. That's that shedding. Right. It's a new, you don't put old, you don't put old wine in, or you don't put new wine in old wine skins. That's right. Right. 

[00:27:13] Yeah. It's the pruning analogy, which I absolutely love. Yeah. And again, scripture was in a primary agricultural time, and so yeah, there's all these like agricultural analogies and the physical pruning mm-hmm.

[00:27:29] Of, I mean, we went to the strawberry farm the other day, which yeah. It's huge highlight for my family. That's so awesome. Another great memory. So fun, man. It was so hot too. Yeah. It's like your, your poor family is expressing so much health this week and, uh, they, they, they went with us just grinned and barred it, but, you know, so hot.

[00:27:49] Like we, I think you and I had the most fun. Yeah. Like, we were having a ball and the girls were like, all right, we're ready whenever you guys are ready. But, um, I, I was commenting to the guy like how impressed I [00:28:00] was with. Part of their farm and how well they had managed weeds. Mm-hmm. And I, I love the farm and ag side of things.

[00:28:07] I think you know this about me and, and we've got a little, you know, little branch that we're starting to build the cattle portion of it and all that and to do it the right way. Yep. The right way. Where I feel convicted about it, it is so much more labor. There's a lot more cost in the front end. Mm-hmm.

[00:28:26] And there's a lot more like manual labor that goes along with it too, if you're gonna do it the right way. Yeah. And part of that is there's a level of, you're at a lot of tees and you're like, all right, you can do it this way, but this is the cost. Do you still want to do it this way? Mm-hmm. And it's that constant like decision.

[00:28:48] I'm like, all right. This doesn't make a lot of financial sense right now. This doesn't make a lot of time sense right now. Yeah. But am I gonna do it the way that I think No. [00:29:00] Confirmed 

[00:29:01] Yeah. 

[00:29:01] Is right. And you get to make that decision. Yep. And it's not always, it's not always completely right and wrong either, I believe.

[00:29:16] I think some of it is based on. A lot of prayer and personal conviction. Sure. Especially when it comes to like practice models and all that. We can go there a different day, but, um, I think a lot of people get so hung up with that and they stick their flag in the ground on some sort of like principle, if you will.

[00:29:35] Yeah. And to me, there's only one thing that I'm gonna stick my flag in the ground for and it's not a healthcare principle. Yeah. And it's not a philosophical. Argument it's not. And so also being very firm when you're supposed to be firm and being flexible when sure we can be flexible, I think is [00:30:00] the most Christ-like way to handle things.

[00:30:01] Yeah, yeah. Well, and dude, you said it, you said it well earlier. You're like, the first thing you should be doing is like figuring out who you are truly called to be and like what your purpose is and getting in the word right. And I think that. So, but I mean my journey, I'll just share it is like I was when I decided, okay, we're gonna go to church and we're gonna make this a regular thing and I'm gonna like just start to get to know the Lord.

[00:30:29] Yeah. Give it a shot. I spent a year just going on Sundays. Yeah. And then there and there was no, you know, they had like their there discipleship programs called the Growth Track. So like we did that so we could serve and I just wanted to greet and they asked us to do kids. So we did kids for like two. I think two months or something, and then we're like, this is not our thing.

[00:30:47] We're not doing that. Put us on greeting. Yeah. I'm good at smiling at people. Yeah. And. So I, I just like, but I thought, I thought this is like, we're hardcore Christian now, dude. Like let's [00:31:00] go. Yeah. And my buddy Tom and I shared this, I've shared all these stories before. It's so funny. But my buddy Tom's like, Hey dude, how's Bible reading going?

[00:31:06] And I'm like, uh, it's not at all. It's boring. I was trying to read Genesis one and like straight through the whole entire Bible and it's so boring. But what happened, and I think you, when you were talking about the teas, right? And it's like there's a cost to making a decision. When I made the sacrifice to be like, I'm gonna get up every single morning and read the Bible and just make it non-negotiable, and I'm a journey journal on it, even if it's a little, it doesn't need to be a super long journal.

[00:31:30] Dude, more challenges came at us that next year. Yeah. We had to fire an employee, um, because financially we, it didn't make sense to keep her around anymore. We had to. Like basically completely uproot all the systems inside of our office. The way we communicated with people, the, you know, I shared it before, is like that the, I get the results.

[00:31:52] Yeah. But that was the first, yes. Of many That was like, are you sure that you want to go this [00:32:00] road? Because it would be way easier to just spray all this stuff with glyphosate and the ag model. Right. And I'm like, no, dude. We're doing it. Yeah. But where it's brought us to and brought me to is this place where I like, and I hope you've seen it this week.

[00:32:16] I was thinking about it this morning, just kind of reflecting on it is like. I freaking love our life. Yeah. Like you said, even when you said yesterday, you're like, dude, everything here is like less than a mile. And I'm like, yeah, dude, I love it. Yep. Like it's the coolest thing ever. So again, that doesn't have to be for everybody, but I just share that it's like, I don't think I would have those things if it weren't for making the tough decision to just be like, okay, God, I'm here.

[00:32:39] Break what you wanna break, show me what you wanna show me. Ask me to be obedient where I don't wanna be obedient. And I definitively did not wanna be obedient. A lot of those things. But much to your, you know, you guys setting up your cattle stuff on the ranch is like, it's the same exact process. It's like, I could do it easy.

[00:32:56] And he's like, you'll make okay money and it'll be fine. [00:33:00] And like you can just keep hanging out with all your same friends, or you can go for a calling and a purpose that I brought you here for. And it's gonna be hard for a spell, but it'll be the most rewarding thing you've ever done. 

[00:33:13] Yeah. There's a different kind of fulfillment Yeah.

[00:33:15] In that, in that day. I think that the, I mean, there's a saying where it's just like, it is if, if today is something you can hang your hat on, and if you had today on repeat Yeah. Would you be, would you be happy with that? Fast forward 80 years. I have never, ever, ever heard of a 90-year-old ever say. I wish I'd have made more money or I wish I would've spent more time away from my family.

[00:33:41] I wish I would've, you know, spent less time in the word. Yeah, less time praying. I've never heard those words ever so good. Like, even in the movies. So good. Like, and, and you know, some of that is just like, you know, totally trying to shift our way of thinking away from what we're talking about. But I mean, the, the thing that I want to circle right [00:34:00] back to because I, I don't wanna miss this, is the cost.

[00:34:08] I think, you know, I'm, I'm gonna go to the terms. Mm-hmm. You know, thing that we use a lot. Tell 'em about terms and tell them how you can use that strategically to set your face towards the things of him. Yeah. Versus what might make sense financially, relationally, you know, whatever. Because one of my favorite ways to look at.

[00:34:35] Life is in the garden of Yosemite when Jesus knew what was up. Yep. Like he knew what was coming next. You know, that night before he went and spent some alone time in the garden with the father. And remember what he asks the father, he said, you know, if you're able, will you take this cup from me? Yeah.

[00:34:55] Like even Jesus, who is fully God, fully man, he [00:35:00] said, he was like, I see the cost. I'm at the T. It's happening in a few hours. Like I see it. 

[00:35:06] Mm-hmm. 

[00:35:07] Can you take it from me? Like, is there another way? And that wasn't sin. So I think that so many times we look at terms and asking God and praying through things as, oh, I'm considering doing the wrong thing.

[00:35:23] And like I think Jesus, like he did that with God. Like he came to him and was like in this type of forum and was like, God, yeah. Is there another way? Can we talk about this? When in all reality, like he knew what was next. He knew what he had to do. Yeah. And then one of my favorite lines in scripture said he set his face toward Calvary.

[00:35:47] Yep. He just set his face. And so I think we can use different, you know, ways in which we look at the world, you know, terms, frameworks, like [00:36:00] maps, whatever we're gonna use. As long as we get clear at the end and it's like, all right, I can set my face toward what I know he has for me. 

[00:36:08] Yeah. Yep. So good. Well, I think most people, like every, and a lot of people say, they're like, everybody knows what they should do that a lot of times they just don't do it.

[00:36:18] Yeah. And yeah, dude, there's just so much to unpack in there with like. The cost. You know, like Jesus literally paid it all, ultimate cost for us. And it's like, but you're too tired to wake up 10 minutes earlier to read your Bible in the morning. 

[00:36:43] Yeah. What, what is there actually really cost to that? 

[00:36:47] Yeah.

[00:36:48] Yeah. And that's where like this idea of terms, so like I got, I don't know if Buff got it from somewhere, but Yeah. Um, Buffington talks about terms, so there's time. So any decision you make, you wanna look at it in terms of like, okay, [00:37:00] time, energy, right? There's the R is resources, which could be people, it could be a bank account, but then the M is money.

[00:37:10] And then S is, uh, help me out with the S-T-R-M-S. Sanity. 

[00:37:16] Sanity. 

[00:37:17] Um, so you would weigh a decision based on those things? Yeah. Um, but what's interesting about it, like you said, and you look at, like, you look at that example right, of Jesus. He's like, okay, my time is finite, but it's not because I know where I'm going.

[00:37:37] Yeah, right. And you shared that in the last episode of this idea of eternity my energy. I think we all know what it, it took a lot of energy. Yeah. About to get wiped out. Yeah. He knew. 

[00:37:47] He knew what the physical exchange was about to be. 

[00:37:50] There was hell on earth, an eternity of time. There's gonna be hell on earth in terms of energy and resources.

[00:37:56] Like he had the disciples around him, but even he knew that they [00:38:00] were gonna deny him. 

[00:38:00] Yeah. 

[00:38:01] Can you 

[00:38:01] imagine that? Can you imagine knowing that when I was gonna walk outta here, I was gonna say, I don't even know that guy. 

[00:38:07] Yep. 

[00:38:08] I just, I just filmed a pa. I don't even know him. Who is that? Who is, yeah. Like. How the be the betrayal that he knew was gonna happen.

[00:38:17] Mm-hmm. But he was like, sign me up. Well, I'm gonna go up anyway. Yeah. Like that, that to me, sorry to get you off track. I, I think we should pause and sit in that, because my, I always tell people my number one core value personally is loyalty. Mm-hmm. So like, and there's only a certain people that get into my, like inner circle.

[00:38:36] Yep. But knowing that those are the dudes that he's hand selected. To run with during the most powerful three plus years of humanity. Yep. He already knew what was gonna happen. 

[00:38:51] Yeah. 

[00:38:52] He already knew. Like, and it was gonna happen in a few hours with one of them he already knew. 

[00:38:57] Yep. And that's why like, [00:39:00] you know, we think about, um, like Jamie Win, Winship wrote that book, living Fearless.

[00:39:04] But the, there's so much that in that book that's great. But I think just the title, dude, like. The difference between bravery is like, I'm scared and I'm gonna do it anyway. 

[00:39:14] Yeah. 

[00:39:15] And how I think Jesus operated. Jamie's also writing another book about just like living in the paradigm of Jesus. And I think that'll be cool to read, but it's like the, the cool concept to me is the idea bravery.

[00:39:29] I'm scared, but I'm gonna do it anyway. And fearless, literally meaning I'm not scared. Let's go. Yeah. And that's. I think that's the thing is so many people don't operate in that because they don't know who they are. They don't know why they're doing what they're doing. They're trying to do it like somebody else.

[00:39:51] And that gets back into sometimes it's not this huge thing where you're trying to copy the exact person, but like in my example and yours [00:40:00] too is like, no, we're gonna cut that sentence. Yeah, we're gonna cut that word. And even with Coco. She's not allowed to say I can't. Yeah. It's hard. It's tricky. I need help.

[00:40:14] But you can't say I can't. Yeah. Um, sa same with, you know, like me and getting sick. You are not allowed to say I'm getting, I'm getting sick around me. Yeah. You're expressing health. It's a god-given reaction to your body trying to protect itself or get rid of the stuff that's in there. So anyway, that's my little rant.

[00:40:31] But yeah, dude, ultimate cost, ultimate cost. Money, the money thing didn't matter. And then Jesus, like, I think he had, he was perfectly sane and his wasn't gonna cost him his sanity. 

[00:40:46] Yeah. He was perfectly sane because he chose a way Yep. And delivered on that way. Yeah. Everybody else thought he was completely insane.

[00:40:57] Mm-hmm. You know, that was the, that was [00:41:00] the primary charge that Jesus had. Was that he claimed to be God. Yep. And so the Jews who didn't believe him as the Messiah were like, you're not. That was his primary charge. Yeah. So he was in fact insane according to everybody of the day. Yep. And so using terms, I mean, that worked out so beautifully.

[00:41:25] Thanks God. It's like he was completely sane, but to the world he was. Yeah, absolutely. To the point of charge. 

[00:41:35] Yep. 

[00:41:35] And a death sentence. Insane. 

[00:41:37] Yep. 

[00:41:38] So at the end of the day, there is no cost or terms that should stop us, 

[00:41:47] dude. That's where we end it. Seriously there. I mean, that's it. That should inspire everyone to get up and go do what you know you were called to [00:42:00] do.

[00:42:01] Holy Spirit. Holy Spirit put on your heart to do. And if you don't know, like, I mean, it's really, I don't wanna say it's not hard, but it's kind of not hard. Like you surround yourself with the right people who have the qualities of Christ and go all in. In the word like this is, dude, when I was praying one time, this is in worship, God was like.

[00:42:24] You know, you don't need to read Hermo. He's like, you know, you can stop reading Russell Brunson. Yeah. And like down the list, dude of all these people and he's like, all this stuff's in the Bible. 

[00:42:34] Mm-hmm. There's no new idea under the sun. It's just my words. Solomon wrote that. Yeah. So here's a, here's a pro tip, here's a action step we can give listeners.

[00:42:43] So go online, look up, unroll me, and unsubscribe. To everything that is not 100% essential. All of it. 

[00:42:57] Come on. 

[00:42:57] Go through your social media and [00:43:00] delete so much of what is absolute trash anyway. Yep. If they are out of alignment with what you absolutely believe, you just need to unfollow them. Yeah. Erase your explore page.

[00:43:12] Stop getting on the explore page like you need to Absolutely get. Blinders for a season. Yep. Go dark for a season. If you feel like you're not hearing from the Lord, it's not him. Yeah. I can promise you that for sure. I can promise you that. And there have been seasons where I've used that ridiculous excuse.

[00:43:35] It's just like I'm not hearing from the Lord. Yeah. Like, you know, and, and to me that's so. Number one foolish. Mm-hmm. I can see that myself. It's completely foolish. And it was really ignorant too. Yeah. Because now that I'm seeing all over. All over, like every story in the Bible, it was like God was always there.

[00:43:55] He was just like, Hey, like any, any time now, you know? Yeah. [00:44:00] Anytime now. I'm still here. I'm still waiting. I'm excited to hear from you. I'm excited to hear that you are, you know, wanting to pursue the guy that created you. Hey, still here. And so I think that a lot of times we are looking for the burning bush or we're looking for the.

[00:44:16] You know, the staff in the, in the river and the parting of the waters. Yeah. Well, dude, 

[00:44:22] what's a silly parable? It's like the guy's, like the guy's ship sinking. Yeah. And the boat comes by and he's like, Hey. Uh, they're like, Hey, do you need some help? And he is like, no, God's gonna save me. And then like another boat comes and he is like, no, God's gonna save me.

[00:44:34] And then he gets to heaven. And so like three boats come and the dude ends up dying and he gets to heaven. He's like, God, why didn't you save me? He's like, I sent you three boats, dude. Yeah. Yeah. Like, what are you thinking? Wake up, look. Yep, for sure. Like, I know, that's so funny. But it's really, it's really true.

[00:44:47] Yeah. Like it doesn't have to be that complicated. And again, that goes back to what I just keep bringing up is like a lot of times the things that we're struggling with. Are actually there as the indicator that [00:45:00] like, hey, something's gotta change. Yeah. And that could be, you know, we go chiropractic principle and talk about like what's physically going on in somebody's body.

[00:45:07] We don't have to do that now, but like, that's the thing, like look in the, like, look in the, if you go God already knows everything that you think anyway. So maybe you just start telling him the truth and talking to him. Sharing. Like, this is what I'm scared of, this is what I'm afraid of. This is what I'm worried about.

[00:45:25] This is what I doubt. This is where I don't believe you. And then from there, like he'll literally open up to you more because he already like, he just wants to be, he wants to have an intimate relationship with you. Yeah. And he already knows what you're thinking anyway. So it's like that's the, I feel like that's almost the end sometimes because then he is like, okay, cool, I can work with that.

[00:45:43] Yeah. '

[00:45:44] cause they're not in denial anymore. 

[00:45:45] I'm the only one holding me back. 

[00:45:47] Yep. 

[00:45:47] That's it. Hi. His, his door is fully open. Yeah. I'm the one that keeps shutting that. Yeah. You know, 'cause he is always gonna provide, uh, always gonna provide. My favorite story [00:46:00] right now is from like First Kings four and there's a widow.

[00:46:05] Mm-hmm. New, newly widowed. And she has nothing. Yep. She has absolutely nothing. And I just go read chapter four at some point. Go read chapter four at some point. Um. Because the way that it opened, the opening paragraph is so powerful. Yeah. Because this gal is just like broken, uh, lost her spouse. He was obviously the provider in the equation because it, it her, her primary complaint is like, I don't have means.

[00:46:32] Yep. And I don't have supply. And the only thing she's got left, she, she speaks to the, to, to Elisha and she's like, the only thing I have left is I think one vessel of oil. And Elisha asks like, what do you like, what do you want me to do? Mm-hmm. And, uh, she's, you know, kind of clueless and he is like, I tell you what, go and collect some vessels.

[00:46:59] Mm-hmm. [00:47:00] Not too few. Yep. I remember that line is like one of my favorites. Go and collect from your neighbor's vessels. Not too few. And she goes and she collects 'em all in the neighborhood and. Her boys, they don't, scripture's not clear on how old they are. Um, basically they, they start filling up these vessels one by one.

[00:47:24] They keep bringing her the vessels and she's filling 'em up from the original jar. Yeah. At least that's the way the picture is in my head. Yeah. Yeah. From the original jar. And they just, they, they fill all the vessels and she looks at 'em. She's like, Hey, bring me the next vessel. And they're like, like. Done.

[00:47:39] Like we don't have anymore. Yeah. And she goes to Elisha and she's like, okay, now what? And he's like, go and pay all of your debts with the oil. Mm-hmm. And then whatever you have left, like live on that. And it just goes to show that it had nothing. Mm-hmm She had [00:48:00] no way to work clearly. 'cause he didn't recommend go work.

[00:48:06] He, you know, she didn't have, uh, the boys might not have been old enough to provide for her. Sure. Potentially. 'cause he didn't tell her to, you know, have them go work and she didn't have any resources apparently. Yep. But everything was provided. And so I think a lot of times we're looking for, you know, him to give us the things like, oh, give me these things and then I'll go and multiply it.

[00:48:32] Right. Or then I'll go do, and he's like, no. No, you're, you, you already have what you need. Yeah. If you'll just trust me to multiply it, whatever that might be of the, of the terms. Yeah. Like, like trust me to multiply it and she was faithful and obedient immediately 

[00:48:50] to 

[00:48:50] go, to go at like, what if I came to you and I was like, Hey man, like I need you to go to your neighbors and gather up a bunch of, you would look at me like I was not [00:49:00] sane.

[00:49:00] Yeah. But she was like, okay, I'm gonna be. Immediately obedient. And I think that is where I'm super convicted right now in this stage of my life where, how often am I analyzing what I know to come from him? Like if I know that this is what he is asking me to do, how long does it take me to be obedient?

[00:49:22] Yeah, because like Abraham modeled it for us, like he was asked to sacrifice his son. He didn't wait around. Okay. He, well, he asked why a couple times. Yeah. But, and then he was also immediately obedient when God asked him to like literally mutilate his like 90-year-old body. Mm-hmm. You know, when he, when he was asked to start circumcising him and his entire family.

[00:49:46] Yeah. Like, he didn't really ask why. He was like, all right, I'll be immediately faithful to that. He conceived a child with his wife who was 80 something years old. Yeah. He didn't ask why. He was like, I will be immediately obedient to that. So. To me, [00:50:00] that's the only thing. Bridging the gap between what you say you want from God.

[00:50:07] Like he's appointed that in you. Yeah. And you're like, this is what God says I'm supposed to accomplish or do or carry forward. The only thing missing is you're not being immediately obedient. Yep. Because if it's from him, that's all the, the next step is just be, be obedient. 

[00:50:23] Yeah. Dude, that's so good. I mean, yeah.

[00:50:26] Delayed. Disobedience or delayed obedience is still disobedience. That's right. Put it that way. So go like so many times in the Bible it's like go and tell. Go. I mean, even the, when Jesus takes the demons outta the dude puts 'em in the pigs and he's, and this is Mark, it's in all the gospels, but Mark five, he's in his right mind and then the very next thing he does, he goes back to where he came from and told everybody about it.

[00:50:53] Yep. It's always that like go and tell. Go. Go. So go and make disciples. It's the great commission. Yeah. [00:51:00] Yeah. I think that's where we should wrap it is just like if you're, whatever you're looking for, whatever you want to accomplish is like go. You've already been called to do it. You already know what to do.

[00:51:09] And that's it. You have any final wrap up thoughts before we go 

[00:51:14] seek his will? Yep. Amen. And then go. 

[00:51:16] So good. Alright, family, we'll come at you guys again next week. Peace.